Pursuing a '77

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Pursuing a '77

Postby LithiumCobalt » Fri May 21, 2021 2:20 pm

Have been watching this particular car listing for a while and it's still sitting. Not sure if the price is high or if there is some issue that is not obvious from the photos. Always difficult to tell from photos. I thought nice examples of these cars were selling for more than $8,800, but maybe my perception of demand is skewed. Anyone notice any obvious problems from the photos other than the driver side armrest? Interior looks really nice with not much wear. Difficult to tell the quality of the repaint from the low-lighting pictures. Plan to call the owner shortly and get the details. If all checks out, asking another LCOC member to check it out in person to give their assessment.

Have always wanted a '77 and this one also does not have that stupid oval opera window. Dark blue/dark blue just so happens to satisfy my color desires, too. 460 and turbine wheels - yes, please. Looks like the only thing missing is the moonroof, but less problems, I guess.
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Re: Pursuing a '77

Postby action » Fri May 21, 2021 3:45 pm

I assume it is listed for something less than $8K

The issue is the 1970s. Vehicles in general built in that decade are in general not that high of demand compared to the previous decade of pony cars, suicide doors and high HP engines. The 70s had less HP, new bumper standards and roll over standards that eliminated convertibles in the second half of the decade among the major factors.

So the products available did not have as much appeal as others.

If you like it, pretty sure you know more than the average hobby car buyer, pull the trigger and make a fair offer.

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Re: Pursuing a '77

Postby action » Fri May 21, 2021 3:49 pm

Looks to be well optioned other than what you have mentioned

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Re: Pursuing a '77

Postby Mike » Fri May 21, 2021 4:01 pm

I like them, almost bought one once. But there's not much demand for them. They usually either go for very good (cheap) prices or are stuck for sale for a while like this one seems to be.
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Re: Pursuing a '77

Postby Dan Szwarc » Fri May 21, 2021 4:22 pm

That’s not a 77 unless they replaced the wheel skirts with 78/79 wheel trim, which I find highly unlikely.
Ask for the first five digits of the VIN. It looks like a 78.
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Re: Pursuing a '77

Postby frasern » Fri May 21, 2021 8:27 pm

I think the '77 dash drooped a bit on the sides, I still like it. I have wanted a '78 glasstop coupe since I worked at A L/M dealership in '79, maybe one day.
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Re: Pursuing a '77

Postby Dan Szwarc » Fri May 21, 2021 8:41 pm

frasern wrote:I think the '77 dash drooped a bit on the sides, I still like it. I have wanted a '78 glasstop coupe since I worked at A L/M dealership in '79, maybe one day.


Wait. You’re right (ish). That’s a 77 dash. 78 and 79 had the 73-78 Mercury Marquis dash.

My bad. It’s a 77.

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Re: Pursuing a '77

Postby frasern » Fri May 21, 2021 9:02 pm

Ah yes, drum speedo, should have zoomed in there. The skirts may have just been someone's preference. I like the upholstery choice, not as big on the velvety fabric that most had.
I agree with Mike, the market is all over with those cars, sometimes a lesser one seems to fetch more than a top quality car. New paint always makes me wonder what lurks beneath.
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Re: Pursuing a '77

Postby TonyC » Fri May 21, 2021 9:48 pm

So, this car has the interior of one year and the exterior of another year?? Sounds to me that this car must have an "intereth-ting" past to it. It is very pretty for its age, but I have to wonder who did the year-meshing, and why. Now, don't get me wrong, year-meshing is not necessarily a crime; I've done it with Frankenstein, and as a result I have about three or four years represented in him. But I did all that as personal preference, not to cover up underlying problems.

I remember once test-driving a '79 Lincoln sedan right before my grand found and settled on a 2-door '79 Electra 225 Limited. I thought I was used to big cars...until I sat behind the wheel of that Lincoln.

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Re: Pursuing a '77

Postby Dan Szwarc » Sat May 22, 2021 6:47 am

Just the skirt trim. And easy change.

The dash is not. It’s a 77.
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Re: Pursuing a '77

Postby Mike » Sat May 22, 2021 8:40 am

If the bigger 77 ones are the kind that need to come off to remove the wheels someone probably thought it was better to change them to avoid that. Or they liked the way it matches the front more.
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Re: Pursuing a '77

Postby frasern » Sat May 22, 2021 10:20 am

There are many reasons they may have been changed, but one possibility is a collision repair shop couldn't get the matching one, but could find 2 later ones. I would check the adjacent areas for repairs. The paint changed in '78, (first year clearcoat), so they would have required paint work before a swap.
In the pictures, the body looks straight, and the interior shows well, I wouldn't rule it out over fender skirts.
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Re: Pursuing a '77

Postby LithiumCobalt » Sat May 22, 2021 2:56 pm

Didn’t even catch the missing skirts. Good eyes.
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Re: Pursuing a '77

Postby TonyC » Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:18 pm

I came across a seriously-rare treasure in JC just a couple weeks ago: A very pretty, teal-colored '79 Town Car parked at one of the shops on Organ Donor Skid Row (obviously not the actual name of the road, but all the salvage yards in JC are clustered there, so that's what I call it). It's been parked there for several weeks now, so it's been collecting dust and bird-droppings. But on my on-foot errands yesterday and today, I walked by there to get a closer look and take pictures. The car looks like it was garage-kept its entire life: The vinyl roof covering does not have so much as one visible crack in it; the only potential rusting I saw was a small bubble under the paint on the rear-deck panel ahead of the trunk, and it was no bigger than a dime; the interior was in superb shape, save for the stock radio having been removed and not replaced with anything else (but the dash was not torn apart or wrecked with that removal); and the exterior does not have so much as one dent anywhere on its body. I did confirm today that it was a '79, thru the VIN on the dash. I don't know the story behind it, nor whether it's for sale, let alone the asking price for it if it is for sale; unfortunately, I didn't have enough time to hunt down and question the owners of that shop. Maybe I should, at least to know the story behind it...

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Re: Pursuing a '77

Postby mge825y » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:07 pm

Maybe Frankenstein needs a little (younger) brother? You should go make an offer - afterall, Daddy has to have wheels.
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