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Authenticity Errors

Postby Dan Szwarc » Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:54 pm

The manual is chock full of errors.

This thread is to list them and address them one by one.

I'll start:
The 66 gas cap is likely not vented as stated by the manual. MPC contradicts this (no PN for a non-vented cap). People with low mileage 66s have caps that look like crap (not replaced) and are vented.
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Re: Authenticity Errors

Postby LithiumCobalt » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:25 pm

Page 67: “On 462 engine cars, a black fiberglass shroud with some white fibers....”.

Both of my 67s had original fan shrouds that were brown in color, not black, when stripped down to the bare material.
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Re: Authenticity Errors

Postby action » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:46 pm

LithiumCobalt wrote:Page 67: “On 462 engine cars, a black fiberglass shroud with some white fibers....”.




Of the '67 shop manual?


The '66 shop manual is arranged in Groups, Parts and Pages.
For the cooling system Group there is no mention of the shroud. Not even in the specification Part. However it does list ONE radiator engineering number AND the part number in the specifications. Of which in Part 11-3 for readiator description it states there are two radiators. Standard cooling and extra cooling. An extra cooling radiator comes with all Lincolns with AC. I gues there wasn't many '66 Lincolns with ot AC.

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Re: Authenticity Errors

Postby LithiumCobalt » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:58 pm

Page 67 of the 1st edition of the 66-69 Authenticity Manual.
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Re: Authenticity Errors

Postby LithiumCobalt » Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:17 pm

Page 19: “The chromed rectangular mirror head...”.

Mirror shape is more trapezoidal to be more precise
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Postby LithiumCobalt » Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:22 pm

Also on page 19: “The mirror within swivels in all directions controlled by a chrome plated elongated in 1966 and 1967 and round in 1968 and 1969 “joystick”.....”

I think they forgot to word “baton” between elongated and in.
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Re: Authenticity Errors

Postby LithiumCobalt » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:51 pm

Page 43: Engine color

Lots of debate and different information sources point to the color changing slightly with the debut of the 460. 462s don’t appear to have used Ford corporate blue. It was a lighter shade identified by a different name depending on which information source is consulted. Plenty of commentary on the Mustang authenticity boards.
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Re: Authenticity Errors

Postby LithiumCobalt » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:24 pm

Page 45: Valve cover gasket - “The original 462 silver colored gaskets are stapled to the valve covers....”

Saw no indication of staples through the metal valve cove gaskets on either of my 67s.
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Postby LithiumCobalt » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:34 pm

Page 48: Engine Mounts - “A three (3) point mounting system is used with the 462 engine. There are two (2) front and one (1) rear mount.”

Where is this mysterious rear mount? As far as I know there are two engine mounts and two transmission mounts. Never seen a single rear engine mount.
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Re: Authenticity Errors

Postby LithiumCobalt » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:58 pm

Page 54: Fuel lines (continued): “From the fuel pump to the carburetor the metal line is held to the engine by two (2) blue brackets.”

Have never seen these brackets on any car. The stainless lines I have seen run directly from the pump to carb with no accompanying brackets or supports.
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Re: Authenticity Errors

Postby Dan Szwarc » Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:41 pm

LithiumCobalt wrote:Page 48: Engine Mounts - “A three (3) point mounting system is used with the 462 engine. There are two (2) front and one (1) rear mount.”

Where is this mysterious rear mount? As far as I know there are two engine mounts and two transmission mounts. Never seen a single rear engine mount.

There is no rear mount. There are two tranny mounts considered rear mounts.


I never saw that one before.
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Re: Authenticity Errors

Postby Dan Szwarc » Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:43 pm

LithiumCobalt wrote:Page 45: Valve cover gasket - “The original 462 silver colored gaskets are stapled to the valve covers....”

Saw no indication of staples through the metal valve cove gaskets on either of my 67s.

I have.

The staples are original-style, but leaky valve covers are almost a certainly and only the lowest mileage originals will still have them.

If you look at the valve cover, you will see the tabs where the staples go. Some gaskets don't have the corresponding tabs that extend under the valve cover tabs for the staples.
They should be flat staples.
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Re: Authenticity Errors

Postby Dan Szwarc » Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:45 pm

LithiumCobalt wrote:Page 54: Fuel lines (continued): “From the fuel pump to the carburetor the metal line is held to the engine by two (2) blue brackets.”

Have never seen these brackets on any car. The stainless lines I have seen run directly from the pump to carb with no accompanying brackets or supports.


Me neither.
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Re: Authenticity Errors

Postby LithiumCobalt » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:45 pm

Dan Szwarc wrote:
LithiumCobalt wrote:Page 45: Valve cover gasket - “The original 462 silver colored gaskets are stapled to the valve covers....”

Saw no indication of staples through the metal valve cove gaskets on either of my 67s.

I have.

The staples are original-style, but leaky valve covers are almost a certainly and only the lowest mileage originals will still have them.

If you look at the valve cover, you will see the tabs where the staples go. Some gaskets don't have the corresponding tabs that extend under the valve cover tabs for the staples.
They should be flat staples.


Ah OK, that explains it. I was looking for actual holes through the valve covers, but the mounting tabs make perfect sense. Thanks for the schooling.
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