1965 Convertible top with an extra support bar?

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1965 Convertible top with an extra support bar?

Postby defrang » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:54 pm

I am in the process of replacing all the hydraulic lines for my convertible top and in the process I needed to detach the top and deck rams which allowed me to move the top up and out of the way. This process relaxed the top frame and I noticed a crossbar that I had originally thought was structural to drop out. It would seem this bar was just wedged in place by a prior owner possibly for added support. Each end of the bar was cupped over the end of a bolt. I was wondering if anyone has their convertible top frame similarly supported?
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Re: 1965 Convertible top with an extra support bar?

Postby TMaria » Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:42 am

Robert,

That brace was suggested by John Cashman. It prevented the top mechanism from twisting. I put one on my 65. The 66 and 67 have factory installed brace. Reinstall when you are finished.

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Re: 1965 Convertible top with an extra support bar?

Postby defrang » Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:29 am

Thanks Tony.
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Re: 1965 Convertible top with an extra support bar?

Postby John Cashman » Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:19 pm

That brace bar MUST be in every 64-5 convertible or its just a matter of time before the main cast iron mount breaks and the rams bend. Even the factory realized they had a problem and by 66 they were braced and re-designed. The 1/2 inch square tube is cut roughly 311/2 inches long(each car varies) When cut precisely it is over the big nub on the top pivots and can't escape. LincolnLand sells a kit with instructions if your car has not had this upgrade yet. If I've ever worked on it it has been done.Its called preventive maintenance... Fix the poor engineering before there is a bigger problem!
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Re: 1965 Convertible top with an extra support bar?

Postby defrang » Tue Mar 29, 2016 2:20 pm

Thanks John. Maybe you worked on the car previously. It was owned by Mimi and David Walters near San Juan Capistrano/Laguna Niguel. When I finish replacing the hydraulic lines and reattach the rams, I will fit this bar back in place.
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Re: 1965 Convertible top with an extra support bar?

Postby Classiccannuk » Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:08 pm

John Cashman wrote:That brace bar MUST be in every 64-5 convertible or its just a matter of time before the main cast iron mount breaks and the rams bend. Even the factory realized they had a problem and by 66 they were braced and re-designed. The 1/2 inch square tube is cut roughly 311/2 inches long(each car varies) When cut precisely it is over the big nub on the top pivots and can't escape. LincolnLand sells a kit with instructions if your car has not had this upgrade yet. If I've ever worked on it it has been done.Its called preventive maintenance... Fix the poor engineering before there is a bigger problem!


John, I have some 1/2" stock kicking around, is this tube cut tight to force fit over the nubs? no welding?
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Re: 1965 Convertible top with an extra support bar?

Postby defrang » Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:14 am

It is tight over the bolt ends and not welded.
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Re: 1965 Convertible top with an extra support bar?

Postby Classiccannuk » Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:07 pm

defrang wrote:It is tight over the bolt ends and not welded.

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Re: 1965 Convertible top with an extra support bar?

Postby Classiccannuk » Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:53 pm

Bar installed, thanks for the tip! Now if I can only get the top to drop.
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