Turn signal front fender

[hagbartd]

Did test the lights on my 1977 this evening.
Turn signal in the front fender. Is it suppose to be flashing or just a light?
I thought that the side marking on the fender did flash to with the turn signal.

I did not test the hazard. Sorry forgot it. Will do to morrow….
The rear and front signal lights are working.
Its just this on the side of the fender.

Regards.

[action]

You have several lights working

On the side and on the bottom is a white light. (OK just stay away from the jokes) That is a cornering lamp and should be lit when the turn signal is activated for that side.

On the side just above the cornering lamp is a yellow/orange light. This is a federally mandated side marker for the front of the vehicle. Has to be on when the parking lights or head lights are on.

Lastly on the front and corner is the turn signal lamp. May contain a parking lamp as well.
Flashes when the turn signal is activated for that side.
If it has a parking light will be lit when parking lights or head lights are on.

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[TonyC]

What Action said. The insert on your fender's edge is a dual-purpose light, for marker and for turn signal. The small light above the cornering lamp is a redundant marker light to satisfy the government; on some makes it will flash when the signal for that side is engaged, but not the case with the Lincoln, I don't think, because the main insert on the fender edge already does that job. The rest of that strip is nothing more than a reflector. The cornering lamp is supposed to help nighttime turns by lighting up the area in the direction you intend to turn; whether it does with such a massive-size car is up to an owner to confirm or refute.

---Tony

[hagbartd]

Thanks for the info.
So the orange part in front of the sidemarking is only a reflector?
Is there any states were the side marking also is flashing?
Need to have a flashing yellow on the side of the fender in Denmark.
And I don’t won’t to put some aftermarket thing on it.

Regards.

[action]

Thanks for the info.
1) So the orange part in front of the sidemarking is only a reflector?
2) Is there any states were the side marking also is flashing?

Need to have a flashing yellow on the side of the fender in Denmark.
And I don’t won’t to put some aftermarket thing on it.

Regards.

1 - YES
2 - State law (for the most part) does not apply to vehicle designs. US Federal Law does.

US Federal law for that time period only required the turn signal light (the flashing part) to be visible from the front. This lamp is at the very front of the fender.
Side marker lights (front and rear) were required sometime in the late 1960s. And they do not flash. They come on with
Because you have a Lincoln, the vehicle is equipped with bright white cornering lamps. This was either optional or may have been standard.
And as a piece of trivia, Mercury was the first FLM brand to offer cornering lamps. Cornering lamps were optional on the 1966 full sized Mercury models.

Complying with Denmark law will likely involve making wiring modifications.
The good news is that may be rather easy since the turn signal lamp is not far away from the marker lamp. Assuming a flashing side marker lamp would be acceptable. And an upgrade to a HD turn signal flasher may be necessary to get an acceptable flash rate.

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[hagbartd]

Did GM not have a flashing side marking in the late 60 or early 70?

Regards

[action]

First generation of the Mercury Grand Marquis was introduced in model year 1975.
Had the same wrap around turn signal lens on the front of the fender.

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[TonyC]

The Danish government won't accept the insert-design turn signals, which were designed to show clear flashing from profile view as well as direct front and rear?? Damm...not even the German government is that draconian. Bessie had similarly-designed turn signals which were acceptable...and Bessie was totally German, designed to comply with German specs.

Well, if that's the case, I suppose some cross-reference wiring schematics may be in order, like those for the Buick Electra 225 of the same year. The profile markers on Electras were designed to flash with the turn-signals as well, although the bulbs for the profile markers were single-filament-only.

---Tony

[Dan Szwarc]

Did test the lights on my 1977 this evening.
Turn signal in the front fender. Is it suppose to be flashing or just a light?
I thought that the side marking on the fender did flash to with the turn signal.

No, it doesn’t. That orange light never flashes because the one at the peak can be seen from the side.

The white cornering lamp is also only on when the headlights are on AND the turn signal is on.

[Mike]

If it needs to flash you could wire it into the front signal light. You might need to use a heavy duty flasher or led bulbs because of the added load.

I would argue that you can see the front one from the side.

[Dan Szwarc]

You can see the front TS from the side. The side lamp is a vestigial design styling left over from the 1970-73 models.
Old habits die hard. So do old styles.

Don’t touch the wiring. Just leave it. It’s not worth it.

[action]

Don’t touch the wiring. Just leave it. It’s not worth it.

The car has to comply with Denmark law and it does not comply now.

Something has to change to comply with the law or the owner will not be able to drive on the road. The posts are not numbered but it is about the 5th post from the top.

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[Dan Szwarc]

Oh. That’s a problem. I guess old cars have to meet new rules.

There’s a hack to make standard side markers work like flashers. But I’d have to see schematics.

I’d stick with the argument that the front lamps are visible from the side.

[action]

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I’d stick with the argument that the front lamps are visible from the side.

Me too however it does not sound like the Denmark authorities are buying that.

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