To change or not to change: 1980s T C s
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To change or not to change: 1980s T C s
I have heard a belief, a number of times, that it is better to NOT change automatic transmission fluid: period.
I still remember losing top gear in my '62 very shortly after having the fluid changed, shortly after I bought the car.
My '85 T C seems to be straining to get sufficient fluid through the filter, especially when cold, that the 2 - 3 shift is delayed . . . . or when cold, goes out of gear for a bit, right after shifting into second. I hit the gas lightly a couple of times, and it finally kicks in. It never comes out of gear when fully warmed up.
I have a great personal mechanic who is known across the country for "letter-series 300" transmission (which have slightly different specifications than regular Chrysler ones), . . . . yet I'm still afraid to change it. If a fluid change precipitates a rebuild, it'll close to bankrupt me! What to do?
I still remember losing top gear in my '62 very shortly after having the fluid changed, shortly after I bought the car.
My '85 T C seems to be straining to get sufficient fluid through the filter, especially when cold, that the 2 - 3 shift is delayed . . . . or when cold, goes out of gear for a bit, right after shifting into second. I hit the gas lightly a couple of times, and it finally kicks in. It never comes out of gear when fully warmed up.
I have a great personal mechanic who is known across the country for "letter-series 300" transmission (which have slightly different specifications than regular Chrysler ones), . . . . yet I'm still afraid to change it. If a fluid change precipitates a rebuild, it'll close to bankrupt me! What to do?
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If fluid has not been changed in 35K+ miles, I just leave it alone and hope for the best until it's time. At that point, there is clutch material in the fluid that is actually the "glue" keeping all the worn parts shifting properly.
Your symptoms of late shifting and slipping when cold are classic "morning sickness" that was common on the AOD Ford transmission. Often, it is most noticeable when taking sharp right turns at mid-acceleration or higher. Barring the unlikely event of a mere adjustment or low fluid, your transmission *will* need rebuilding. These were finicky slush boxes.
My recommendation on pretty much any transmission is change the fluid every 15k miles unless you don't know its maintenance history. In your case, if a shop recommends rebuild, you can probably get away with replacing a quart of the fluid with Lucas Oil transmission additive and probably get another 10k miles before things are really blown to hell.
Your symptoms of late shifting and slipping when cold are classic "morning sickness" that was common on the AOD Ford transmission. Often, it is most noticeable when taking sharp right turns at mid-acceleration or higher. Barring the unlikely event of a mere adjustment or low fluid, your transmission *will* need rebuilding. These were finicky slush boxes.
My recommendation on pretty much any transmission is change the fluid every 15k miles unless you don't know its maintenance history. In your case, if a shop recommends rebuild, you can probably get away with replacing a quart of the fluid with Lucas Oil transmission additive and probably get another 10k miles before things are really blown to hell.
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What about the defective TV bushing?
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Late and slow shifting is typical of dried up seals.
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Dan Szwarc wrote:Late and slow shifting is typical of dried up seals.
Yep!
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Bad TV bushing/adjustment would be a problem at all temperatures. OP stated the behaviour was only when cold and shifting was normal after warm up.LithiumCobalt wrote:What about the defective TV bushing?
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Wasn't that only an issue with '86 and newer MPFI cars? Or not?LithiumCobalt wrote:What about the defective TV bushing?
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If I remember correctly, Dexron/Mercon transmission fluid should be changed out regularly, unlike Type F transmission fluid that can stay in there for decades, barring any massive problems like overheating and burning of the fluid (that happened once to Frankenstein, when I first tried to move him on his own power--really scary). The '80s Lincolns used Dexron/Mercon.
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For the transmissions, yes. But correct me if I'm wrong: I believe that the power steering systems in the 80s TCs specified Type F. It did in my '89 Grand Marquis.TonyC wrote: The '80s Lincolns used Dexron/Mercon.---Tony
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The reason that I'm so "jumpy" about having the transmission fluid & filter changed is the still-strong memory of having the transmission fluid changed on my '62, shortly after I bought it. It wasn't four months afterwards when the old TurboDrive lost third gear!! This is why I wonder if I'm better leaving it alone . . as is the opinion of some.
Update: my trans comes out of gear a little more often lately . . . though it's colder now, and that could be influencing things.
I still don't know what to do. I sure don't want to throw the car away----the A/C is still loaded with R-12 and blows COLD!!!!!
(at 28 years old, mind you)
Update: my trans comes out of gear a little more often lately . . . though it's colder now, and that could be influencing things.
I still don't know what to do. I sure don't want to throw the car away----the A/C is still loaded with R-12 and blows COLD!!!!!
(at 28 years old, mind you)
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