The latest (and greatest) in the LED saga

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The latest (and greatest) in the LED saga

Postby JonW » Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:09 pm

I'm continuing my experimentation with LED head lamps, and this latest go-round is by far the best yet. The technology continues to evolve.

My first set of LEDs was in my '62 and that was 3 years or so ago. They're pretty poor, actually. I wasn't impressed.

The next set was in my turquoise '79. That was a year ago. I ended up buying Hella lamp housings and installing LED bulbs.The LED bulbs did not fit into the Hella housings well at all, and were insanely bright. So much so that I removed the low beams and replaced them with halogen bulbs. Which meant I had to install headlight relays. It was a huge improvement over stock, but a lot of work.

For my '79 Bill Blass car, I ordered a set of LED head lamps from Octane Lighting. They advertised that they are plug-n-play, with no splicing or modifications to the headlight buckets. I installed them today, and they were right. I first aligned the head lamps with my vintage Hoppy alignment kit. Then I popped out the stock sealed beams and popped in the LEDs. It was that simple. No splicing, no relays, no head lamp bucket modifications.

I took the car out tonight, and wow, they are really bright and very white. I was apprehensive that they would be offensive, but with half an hour of driving around town and on the outskirts of town, no one flashed their lights at me. I'm very impressed.

Low beam:
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High beam:
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There doesn't seem to be much difference in low and high beam, but there is some. The low beams stay on with the high beams, and that may be why there doesn't seem to be much difference. If you drive your car at night, especially out of town, these are a huge improvement. And since they pop in and out so easily, you can put the old, yellow sealed beams in for judging if you're worried about losing points.

Here's the link: https://www.octanelighting.com/product/5-34-crystal-clear-glass-metal-headlight-6k-set-033-034-3rd-gen-led-2
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Re: The latest (and greatest) in the LED saga

Postby TonyC » Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:53 pm

Well...that's actually a very interesting conversion. If those bulbs don't require any additional mods to work properly and can be easily replaced if needed, I might consider that as a possible option for Frankenstein in the future. A conversion with no need for extra mods is always worth at least some attention for me--especially if they improve the lighting area and appear not to contribute to cataracts for other drivers. I'm saving that link; one question--from what I saw in the page, those bulbs look like the cores are integrated almost like a sealed beam, is that really the case? If so, then I'll seriously consider them--that's one issue I've had with composite headlights, having to replace the cores every two or three years because they never fully seal against the outside.

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Re: The latest (and greatest) in the LED saga

Postby JonW » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:29 am

Yes, these are sealed beams, not composite. Completely plug and play with no mods of any kind.

I ordered some headlight shields to put on the low beams to help control the scattered light, but they did not fit. So I dropped the low beams down one turn on the adjustment screws from the perfectly aimed setting and I'm going to run with them that way.
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Re: The latest (and greatest) in the LED saga

Postby defrang » Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:37 pm

Jon,
did you add relays? or not needed due to low amp draw?
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Re: The latest (and greatest) in the LED saga

Postby JonW » Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:29 pm

No relays needed, they draw less than the OEM sealed beams.
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Re: The latest (and greatest) in the LED saga

Postby bd94s10 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:39 pm

Jon, love your car man! I've shared pics of your car on my Instagram account @LincolnAddict before! I'm thinking about running Dapper Lighting. https://www.dapperlighting.com

Spoke to a guy Cory in Minn and he loves his. He did say they are pretty expensive but I think I'd be ok as long as they perform really well. I'll def look into what you posted above. Thanks for the link!

This is the guy Cory's car. https://www.instagram.com/p/Br3QV1XAa4D/
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Re: The latest (and greatest) in the LED saga

Postby JonW » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:17 am

Great! I'm looking forward to your experience with that lighting. LEDs are evolving quickly, and that's a good thing.
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Re: The latest (and greatest) in the LED saga

Postby cartierEdition » Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:02 pm

Wonder if that will fit a mark iii
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Re: The latest (and greatest) in the LED saga

Postby action » Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:33 pm

cartierEdition wrote:Wonder if that will fit a mark iii


It is a four head lamp system. All FLM 4 head lamp systems from 1957 to the late 1970s are the same. (Or all 5 3/4" round sealed beam systems)
And the awesome thing about LEDs is the draw less power and deliver more light. Just what is needed for the tired wiring and head lamp switch. (That has an old circuit breaker inside)

One of the down sides is no heat on the lens. With the lack of heat, snow and ice may stick and stay. However I live in the land void of that stuff. And the one classic I have in the Water Winter Wonderland has never been outside with temps below 50f.

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Re: The latest (and greatest) in the LED saga

Postby mrjb9475 » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:22 am

https://www.octanelighting.com/product/ ... -gen-led-2 I also purchased these same light I can't wait to see results ill post when they get installed.
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Re: The latest (and greatest) in the LED saga

Postby milesofsmiles » Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:50 pm

I watched this recent video on YouTube regarding LED headlights by Nathan Wilson. Really nice video, he always does such a great job.

https://youtu.be/iKZJ97I8bRI

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Re: The latest (and greatest) in the LED saga

Postby Solid » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:18 am

A single component is definitely easier than the approach I took. I used Octane lighting also, but I bought glass lens housings that took an H4 bulb and had a white LED halo, and then added an H4 LED-replacement bulb. I use the halos as my parking lights and turn them on as DRL's because some crazy-how this giant car is invisible to people and doing this resolves that in a manner that fits the otherwise stock aesthetic of the car.

The prices for the halo's have come way down since I got mine a few years ago. If I were to do it now I'd get the color changing ones and have the outer halo's blink orange when the turn signals operated but still be white otherwise.
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Re: The latest (and greatest) in the LED saga

Postby defrang » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:41 pm

Thanks to all of you and Pat Teahan (burnski) for leading me to place these LED headlights. Massive improvement. Lower amp draw.
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LED with built in fan for cooling fits in. No modification
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these fit in the stock bucket receptacles without modification.
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Re: The latest (and greatest) in the LED saga

Postby Steve K » Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:33 pm

Curious, does anyone know if these bulbs cause any wonkyness with the auto dimmer?
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Re: The latest (and greatest) in the LED saga

Postby milesofsmiles » Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:05 pm

defrang wrote:Thanks to all of you and Pat Teahan (burnski) for leading me to place these LED headlights. Massive improvement. Lower amp draw.


Did you replace all four headlights with LED, or did you just replace the low beams?

I have a 67. I bought H4 LEDs. The outer bulbs have a plug that H4 will plug into but the inner set of lights have a two prong socket, so I just replaced the low beams thus far.
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