I'd love to answer that question, Bob. However, it gets more confusing all the time. The Blue/silver car in Toronto was just recently made into a convertible by the Collins family, who turns out have made 9 convertibles. There was a maroon convertible with a tan top sold at auction recently, too, but it's a recent chop, as well. They all seem to be pretty nicely done. Add to them the two cars made by Alan Taylor and that's 13 known. There are a number of topless parade cars out there, too. I ran across a convertible recently near Boston, at a wildlife center. Someone posted a picture of a Mark II convertible in a ratty garage. I contacted the administrator and was rebuffed. I asked some people I knew in the area if they know of the car and they said no. I contacted the photographer and she ended up pulling the picture off of Flikr. I even went so far as to send an e-mail to our old friend in Boston. I thought for sure his doggedness would get to the bottom of the mystery, but I never heard back from him.
I just came across this picture. This is Art Sears, the retired shop manager from Hess & Eisenhardt.
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Barry your statements in this thread are also my reasons for not taking any of my cars to a Concurs or Points meat, I want people to tell me what they like about the car not what is not correct to the manufactures delivery, I wont own a car that I cannot drive to a show, I don't believe that trailer'd cars should be judged in a car show.
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Points judging just isn't for me. I know many people that enjoy the drive for perfection. That makes for a cool hobby, too. I went to the Michigan meet. People really seemed to be enjoying themselves. If you look at Concours and points-judged shows as places to meet great people and start meaningful long-term relationships then you're selling yourself short by not participating in some form or fashion. This hobby is all about the people, not the cars.
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Barry I will go to a points show but I will not bring my cars or have them judged when I do happen to take one to a show that Judges cars, and I have some cars that with a little cleaning and detailing could be 90+ or better cars, I think they were meant to be driven and used and not built to be "Show Pieces". I have had cars that were "Show Pieces" and didn't enjoy them as much as the ones that I drive when-ever or where-ever I want, when I had a "Show Piece" I was always afraid of someone getting to close and putting a scratch on it or smear a wax job that took a lot of work to do.
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dcm5652 wrote:Barry I will go to a points show but I will not bring my cars or have them judged when I do happen to take one to a show that Judges cars, and I have some cars that with a little cleaning and detailing could be 90+ or better cars, I think they were meant to be driven and used and not built to be "Show Pieces". I have had cars that were "Show Pieces" and didn't enjoy them as much as the ones that I drive when-ever or where-ever I want, when I had a "Show Piece" I was always afraid of someone getting to close and putting a scratch on it or smear a wax job that took a lot of work to do.
I am often asked do I "show" my Tbird.
I have been to some of the local shows, and some that are more on the order of coffee and cars.
And as for "showing" the car, I do that every time I get behind the wheel and drive somewhere.
That's plenty of "show" for me.
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